administration officials for any tangible wrongdoings. >> fran, do you think it was a waste of time? >> i do think it was a waste of time. and it was unfortunate, anderson. you've had on family members on your program and i imagine myself as a family member if i had lost somebody watching this. look, it was a waste of time to ask secretary clinton about the talking points given to ambassador susan rice. >> and that's what -- they seemed to spend a lot of time on talking points given to susan rice. >> right. and yet when ambassador -- when secretary clinton sort of loses her temper in the senate hearing and says what difference does it make whether this resulted from a protest or some guys who went out for a walk and decided to kill americans, the right comeback to that was it does matter. if you're telling us you want to solve the prorks you have blem, understand what caused that. >> let's play the moment. where she got mad at senator johnson. >> again, we were misled that there were protests and then something sprang out of that, an assault sprang out of that. but that was easily as